Category: Let's talk
Hi,
Just wondering how many of you enjoy shooting guns with someone, or by yourself straight ahead. What type of guns have you fired? I've fired a Glock, a Mac 10, a 22, a 12 gage, a 4-10 shot gun, a pump shot gun, a 20 gage, and I think that's it. Well, leave your comments below I guess.
Nathan
How many of you own one as just a shooting gun to take and shoot somewhere? And, will they allow blind people, if accompanied by someone, to shoot at a shooting range? What about targets that we could shoot independently? Just wondering.
The list of how many guns I've shot is too long for me to think of and to write here. Yes, they will let you shoot at a shooting range. I have a few guns, and a concealed weapons license.
Hmmm, that's cool. What do you think about targets that we could shoot independently?
What about having some vibrating device in the stock of a gun, so when you want to shoot something, a long vibration will tell you that you are dead center? Just wondering.
Nathan
Don't even know how something like that would work?
Though I'm much more interested in close-quarters weapons combat, I think going out to a range and shooting things might be an interesting experience too. I remember shooting a couple of service pistols my dad owned when I was very young (with help of course), but that's about the extend of my experience. I don't know how we'd make the gun itself accessible, but I think a sound target would be easy to rig up. Not sure how precise a person could be, but it might be worth a try.
The only problem with a sound target would be that if you shoot and it hits the beeper or something like that, you won't have a sound anymore. lol
There already is an accessible target. it is a lazar scope that makes a noise as you move closer to the center of the target. It works on color if I remember correctly. Its made by an austrian company. However, I've never used it personally.
There is talk of adding shooting to the paralympics though.
Well damn. Soon they'll be drafting us to fight their wars, too. Now that's equality!
There is a video of it that I'm trying to find. I'll let you know. You can google it if you want to though.
SilverLightning how much vision do you have? If the answer is none how were you able to get a concealed weapons license?
Hi,
What is the name of that target? Just interested.
Nathan
I have none, but you don't need any to get a concealed weapons license in some states. In florida there is only a simple target test to get the license. If you are well versed with the practice of shooting, its no problem.
They can't deny you based on your blindness, if you can pass the test, and you meet all criteria, you can have the license.
I'm not sure what the name of the target is. If you go on the association of blind athletes page, they have a link.
You'll shoot your eye out, kid!
No, don't intend to do any such thing. Thanks, I'll try to find it.
I found the company, but I don't know what the device is called? Anyone know.
Nathan
I personally don't own a firearm, but don't have the negative feelings many have about them.
The people I know who are successful are those who get the requisite training, and learn to field service their own equipment: gun oil, cleaning, etc. My advice for any tactical training of any sort - be it hand-to-hand or firearms, is get yourself on a disciplined PT (physical training) schedule.
You're young: there are lots of websites out there which talk about military-style PT and being able to check your own fitness. You wanbt a very finely tuned combination of extremely good reflexes and extremely good self-control. The suburbs - and probably the fundamentalist churches - are full of wannabes: a bunch of so-called 'rights' or 'second-ammendment' 'advocates'. People who go to shows, buy as much gear as they can, have the bumper stickers, drive around in minivanws, never drill, never practice, never have asked themselves the very serious questions of whether or not they could do the deed at the moment of truth.
Then they're extremely careless with their gear, don't service it, keep the rounds where they can't find them in time, have their gear stolen by black-market thieves, and so on. Useless as shit on a fencepost when the moment strikes, but I guess they look good to the popular kids and the baby boomers. Don't do that: Get with people you know who actually practice on a regular basis. When kids your age go to Basic Training, they get to do a lot of push-ups and a lot of running before they get their firearm. And get lots of chances to exercise a bit of self-control too. Granted it's compressed into a series of weeks where they do it all, but you want to be doing the same thing. Since you're not in a military situation, but are concerned with your own ass, and presumably the asses of those who depend on you in one form or another, you do the research, and you build your own PT plan and stick to it on a regular basis. If you're the type that gets upset all the time, goes off half-cocked, yells and curses at people a lot, or any other hotheaded types of things, you gotta figure out how you are going to turn your hothead into a steel trap. You can: I've known guys who were serious hotheads, flipping everybody off who tried to cut them off, and turned it around so they could be a weapon. Which brings me to the last point: You are the weapon, not your firearm and not your technique eve. You're the captain. So if you're not ready, you'll either go off half-cocked or fail when the time comes. None of those things are anything you want.
Great reference, Imprecator. I love that movie.
Hi,
My intention was never to use a firearm against someone. I just want it to shoot at some targets. That is why I am trying to figure out what that audible device is called, or how could I make a target audible?
Also, is it illegal for a blind person to have a gun? Could they deny us because of our vision?
I just don't know about that.
Nathan
No, they can't. There is nothing physical that can deny you the use or ownership of a gun. You can buy a gun if you have no hands. You'll get funny looks, but you can do it. While there are certain things which do preclude you from being able to own a gun, none of them are physical.
You don't need to make a target audible in order to go shooting. If you google a guy named Karie McWilliams, who is a blind shooter from Minnosota, you can read how he does it. He uses smoke detectors and that kind of thing, but his system works without sound. I never use sound when I go shooting. I always have ear protection on, you won't hear the sound anyway.
Thanks silver lightning.
It turns out that I had everything in line today to purchase a gun. My brother filled the form out for me, but the Virginia State Police told the store owners that I couldn't have the gun in my name because I physically did not complete the form myself. When I asked if the form could be completed electronically, the store owners told me know. They also said that I needed 2 witnesses that I did not know.
I talked to the manager and they are making an exception. Thank goodness!
Nathan
I don't know what the laws are in virgina, but in florida the witnesses just have to be people that are not connected to the store itself. I'm glad you got an exception though.
What kind of gun did you get, and what experience do you have with guns? And I don't just mean shooting them. I mean caring for them, carrying them, storing them, and so on.
Honestly, I don't really have that much experience storing guns. I know how to shoot them, and all that.
I got a 22. It is a rogue.
I went on this guy's website, but I still can't find anything about an audible target. If you have any information, please let me know.
Nathan r
Not sure I'm familiar with that model, but my knowledge of .22's is very limited. I don't get enjoyment out of shooting them anymore, unless I do it for speed. Is it a revolver or a semi?
It's a semi. It is a roogar, I misspelled it last time.
Oh, I am talking to a dealer of that audible site, so I am going to see what I can figure out.
I've fired guns since I was seven or eight and I really enoy it. I don't know that I'd go out and buy one, but whenI go camping with the folks and my dad takes his guns I like to squeeze off a few rounds. As for the vibration ting I'm not eally sure how well that would work. But that's just me.
Me either. They have an audible site that when, light is shined on a target, it picks up this light, transforming it into sound. I haven't heard back from the dealer yet. Tried setting up a beeper, but, still, I was not able to independently aim.
Nathan
I'd be worried about hitting the beeper. Bye bye beeper LOL.
That's why most people who use audible beepers use cheap ones. A five dollar noise maker is a lot less of a hit to the wallet.
However, the audible scope doesn't have a noise maker on the target, the noise maker is in the scope itself.
Hi,
I did here back from the dealer this afternoon. He said that the audible scope is available and usually takes 3 to 5 weeks to arrive. He is supposed to be supplying me with more information tomorrow. Like the price.
Thanks,
Nathan
Hello again,
The audible scope apparently had been around since the 90's. It costs $2,229. They don't give you any refunds either. The only thing they do is give you a 2 year warranty against defects. Heck with that... No refunds? What if you get the thing and it doesn't work? Your screwed!
i have shot guns but since I'm a girl and did it on a dare, i don't know what they were called. i know one was a hand gun, and the other one was a rifle. It was a lot of fun and I loved the feeling of power.
However, my hands are not that coordinated to do fine target shooting. so for those i care about i will refrain from shooting.
i also have concerns about owning one because i have friends with kids. also i havde grand babies. when he was 12 my dad saw his best friend kill hi, the best friend'ss brother. They were all playing cops and robers and snuck daddy's hunting rifle out. normally he kept it unloaded but didn't that day.
I'm assuming then that he either didn't lock up the gun or locked it up but left the key where little hands could reach it.
Maybe. The point is, that guns are dangerous. They have to be used with caution.
*shudders* what a scarey topic. The thought of anyone using guns for pleasure freaks me out let alone blindies! Lol
Why is that funny? You're laughing at the fact that you don't think so called blindies are able to use something that are not that dangerous correctly? That's a twisted sense of humor you've got there.
Let me clue you in on a few things. First, guns can't think, so forget this whole idea about them going off on there own. The only way a gun can ever go off on its own is if you set it on fire. It won't go off if you drop it, kick it, throw it, headbutt it, spit on it, insult it, tell it a yo mama joke, none of that. Two things will make a gun go off, fire, and pulling the trigger.
But wait, you can't just pull the trigger. First, it has to be loaded, and the safety has to be off, and you have to have enough strength to pull the trigger. Its not like flipping a light switch, most pistols have a trigger pull of between five and 12 pounds, though some go as high as twenty. Think that doesn't sound like a lot, go pick up a jug of milk with one finger and let me know how easy it is. Oh, and that doesn't mean hang it from one finger, it means that only muscles you use to move the jug of milk, are in your finger.
Then, lets just assume that you have the strength, and the gun does go off. The bullet goes flying down the barrel of the gun and, hits whatever the gun is pointed at. Now, if you've had any gun training, the first thought that flashed through your mind when reading this is, "never point a gun at a person". Why is that? Because that sentence is tattooed on your brain in big golden letters that light up and sing. You never, ever, under any circumstances, point a gun at another person. Even if the gun isn't loaded, you just don't do it.
So, logically, those people that accidentally shoot other people, were breaking the first rule of gun safety. Now, you're probably thinking, "Well, if it wasn't a gun, that person wouldn't be dead." To which I laugh slightly and then form the following reply. Everything has rules, if you break those rules, bad things happen. So lets give a few examples, shall we?
cars, break the rules, people die, knives, break the rules, people die, hockey sticks, use them wrong, people could die, or at least get injured, baseball bats, lord you use one of those wrong and you can take someone's head off, golf clubs, same thing, pool sticks, by god its the same thing, washing machines, same thing, see what happens if you ignore your mother's warnings about putting your little brother in there. You get the point. Everything, if you use it incorrectly, is dangerous, even innocent things.
The sad fact is that most people know next to nothing about guns, and what they do know, they get from hollywood. News flash, hollywood lies. Remember that sceen in true lies where the lady throws the submachine gun down the stairs and it keeps firing? If you don't, look it up, great sceen, and absolutely impossible. Guns are dropped off buildings, literally, in stress tests, and if they go off, they don't get sold.
Guns are safe, so don't shudder when you read about people using them for pleasure. If you hear about someone getting shot, I can promise there was a person behind that gun who pulled the trigger. It may be cliche, but guns really don't kill people, people kill people using guns.
silver lighting i agree totally. oh yes, and back in the 20s when my dad lived they didn't lock up fire arms. my dad and his friend were being stupid and they paid the price.
drdfreak, what a dum name by the way, how demeaning to t call thoe sof us who can not see blindies. what a degrading name. why would a blind person be less able to act responsibly in the care and use of a gun?
why do you think so little of yourself drfreak, to use such a belittling term?
I think that anyone should be able to own a gun. Vision does not have any thing to to with it.
Not anyone, I agree with many of the requirements. Mental health and prison records are perfectly acceptible reasons for denial in my book.
Me too. But not having vision is fine. Guns don't accidentally trigger themselves, it is the people using them and that is why it happens.
silver lightning, blanketly saying that mentally ill people shouldn't have guns is painting with a pretty broad brush. there are some conditions which are perfectly harmless and others, not so much. I think it should be those with things like violent tendencies or whatever.
i also think that to get a gun peopele should take some kind of minimal safety course.
Unfortunately, that isn't me talking, that's the FBI talking. If you have any mental condision which has or is currently requiring medical treatment of a chemical or theraputic nature, no gun for you. The same is true if you are under twenty-one in the case of hand guns or any shotgun that doesn't have a shoulder type stock, or eighteen for all rifles and shoulder stocked shotguns. Also, if you have a criminal background of any kind which has not been expunged entirely, and even that will toss up a few red flags and some states will deny you. All of these, and a few more things, can deny you the right to have a gun. That's the law.
Now, I do agree about the safety course. I think they should be required and they should be extensive. luckily most states agree and require it for a concealed weapons license. Not, however, for buying a gun, but that makes sense. Making every person who buys a gun go through a training course would be very difficult. Besides, would you make them take the course over again to buy a second gun?
However, getting a hunting license, or a concealed weapons license require, in most states, a safety course and a shooting course. These are the two common active uses for guns. I don't think someone who is buying a gun just to put it in a gun cabinet should have to take any classes. Those people constitute most of the gun owners in this country.